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From: Sam Kuper <sampablokuper@posteo.net>
To: caml-list@inria.fr
Subject: Re: [Caml-list] Ask questions on the mailing lists too
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 17:51:21 +0000
Message-ID: <20220119175121.zrug7wumxfsxl62x@posteo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yeg861TWxfFy5ICj@prajna.paris.inria.fr>

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 05:31:39PM +0100, Sébastien Hinderer wrote:
> Simon Cruanes (2022/01/18 15:55 +0000):
>> By the way Sam, I opened https://discuss.ocaml.org/about in a TUI
>> browser and it looked kind of ok.

That suggests to me that Discourse relies on browser-sniffing (probably
based on the user-agent string) to decide what to serve to the browser.

So, users whose browsers (or browser-settings) don't match the Discourse
devs' assumptions may be served non-accessible page content.


Did you manage to create an account, via a text-mode browser, btw?



> Well thei=re is no real equivalence between the ability to view a page
> in a text-mode browser and its accessibility. NOt even an implication
> in one direction or another.

For people who use text-mode browsers for accessibility reasons, it's
crucial that websites work in those browsers.

(Likewise, for people who use screen-readers, it's crucial that websites
work with screen-readers.  Mutatis mutandis.)


> Similarly, I don't think it's expected, nowadays, that a website is
> browsable without JS support for it to conform to WCAG.

WCAG 1 explicitly required websites to be usable without scripts.

WCAG 2 fudges the issue (due to pressure from Big Tech, IIRC), but very
strongly implies it.

The UK Government says:

    Some users turn off features in their browsers deliberately. You
    should respect their decision and make sure those users can still
    use your service.

https://www.gov.uk/service-manual/technology/using-progressive-enhancement#do-not-assume-users-turn-off-css-or-javascript


Sam

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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-14 18:57 [Caml-list] Type Error in OCaml Code mukesh tiwari
2022-01-15 21:19 ` Nicolás Ojeda Bär
2022-01-16  9:40   ` [Caml-list] Ask questions on the mailing lists too orbifx
2022-01-16 14:32     ` Sam Kuper
2022-01-17  9:20       ` Sébastien Hinderer
2022-01-17  9:34         ` Daniil Baturin
2022-01-17 14:30           ` Sam Kuper
2022-01-17 14:56             ` Daniil Baturin
2022-01-17 17:36               ` Sam Kuper
2022-01-17 21:08                 ` Gabriel Scherer
2022-01-18  1:51                   ` Sam Kuper
2022-01-19 15:46                     ` Sébastien Hinderer
2022-01-18  9:49                   ` orbifx
2022-01-18 15:55                     ` Simon Cruanes
2022-01-19 16:31                       ` Sébastien Hinderer
2022-01-19 17:55                         ` Sam Kuper [this message]
2022-01-19 18:09                           ` Sam Kuper
2022-01-19 19:09                             ` Sébastien Hinderer
2022-01-19 20:53                               ` Sam Kuper
2022-01-19 18:43                           ` Simon Cruanes
2022-01-19 19:03                           ` Sébastien Hinderer
2022-01-19 20:50                             ` Sam Kuper
2022-01-20 20:56                         ` Edwin Török
2022-03-11  8:46                           ` Sébastien Hinderer
2022-03-11  9:38                             ` Vasilis Goumas
2022-03-11  9:43                               ` Gabriel Scherer
2022-01-19 15:33                   ` Sébastien Hinderer
2022-01-19 21:43                     ` Gabriel Scherer
2022-01-19 22:02                       ` Sam Kuper
2022-01-19 22:38                         ` Sébastien Hinderer
     [not found]                 ` <50AF4FEF-5CD6-40E7-9FA3-78814CBEE230@etorok.eu>
2022-01-17 22:47                   ` Sam Kuper
2022-01-17  9:54         ` Alan Schmitt
2022-01-17 13:53           ` Sam Kuper
2022-01-19 15:18             ` Sébastien Hinderer
2022-01-19 15:54           ` Sébastien Hinderer
2022-01-20  9:13             ` Alan Schmitt
     [not found]             ` <87pmom7sz7.fsf@m4x.org>
2022-01-20 14:16               ` Sébastien Hinderer

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